Ducati Multistrada MTS1200

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Hi gentlemans,

Kindly please keep posting on the MTS section!
I've read it twice, already - all of it. It's simply the best source of MTS info available - and the most balanced.
As per consequence, I'll go very soon for a white S Touring (as expensive as it is!)

Cheers

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WOW That must have taken a while to read. :)

Yeah it is the most expensive bike I've had, but also the most fun/rewarding I have had. I use my bike mostly as entertainment and vacation, and have had it for little over 2 years. I always try to find new bikes I want more than my current bike, but I have been unable to find any the last 2 seasons. So from switching every year, to having this one for 3 years (Won't switch this season either), it will actually end up saving me money. :)

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Yes, I'm here.

No quickshifter, sorry ;-)

But a new screen. I replaced my MRA Sports with an Aviacompositi screen. More or less the same. That means less noise but more insects on the helmet compared to the standard one. But I like it much more if the wind is going straight to the visor and there's less noise of course.

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Nice looking black MTS with this shorter screen Maksim!

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Hi guys,
Quick question regarding after Market screens.
I'm looking to buy an calsci large screen.
Before I do I thought I'd ask who has tried this one, and how it compares to the standard screen.
Also, whether there is a better screen (mainly two up touring, but at a brisk pace ;-) )

Cheers all,
John.

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Hi John,

I don't have the Calsci screen, but from what I've read, the issue seems to be 'wind' coming from the sides/bottom of the screen. If you will, the gap between the screen and hand controls where the airflow comes up off the from fairing.

In is scenario, the top part of the screen isn't so important as the bottom part.

I've read good reviews about shorty screens for shorter journeys, but for longer trips, and more protection, my choices are to look at the F.Fabbri and VStream screens. Both have wider bottoms, and 'winglets'.

If you see above, on here, there was a discussion about such screens, and also about blocking the gap ....

Personally, I think it would be great if Ducati, or someone else, came out with an accessory to 'fill the gap', just like you can get for the GS and Tenere.... Over on Ducati.ms (and also latterly DucatiForum) there is a chap called 'Captain Plummet' who has been looking at 'Hiss flaps'. He has even put some cad drawings onto the forum, and these have been met with widespread acclaim. I don't think I have read a single negative experience from those that have tried them.

Not being so technical myself, I hope that he (or someone) gets round to making them, like Andy did for the Mark 1 and Mark 2 chain adjusting spanners, or Dave (Aztec) did for the screen spacers. All good bits of kit.

Reducing wind noise seems to be the 'Holy Grail' of the Multistrada....everything else is good and works, but the screen just doesn't, and most aftermarket screens, whilst better than stock, don't really 'cure' the problem either.

I hope some of the above helps, even though it doesn't actually answer your question.

David

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Hi guys,.
I am off on a trip in a couple of weeks for 10 days to France, and know my tyres will not last the trip.
Can anyone recommend a tyre place / bike dealers down near orange / Avignon / nimes area.
Alternatively, is there a national tyre company to look for ?
Price is not really the issue, i am more concerned with somewhere that will do a good job and also can get the rear wheel off :-)

Cheers,
John.
Ps David, thanks for the comments, very helpful.
I guess. I need to do a bit. More reading before I place my order ;-)

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Hi John,

maybe you try a Ducati dealer?

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If you are replaceing tyres, be prepared for the rear wheel nut to be on very tight. Some non Ducati shops may not have the right equipment to remove rear wheel. The rear is set at 230 Nm , and with the drive force being what it is seems to end up a lot tighter. I have been standing on a bar with extension and could not move the rear nut. After replacement I put never seize on the thread just as a precaution.

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Captain Plummets first attempt at those flaps was made by an old visor Cut in half and bolted on to the top bit of the fairing with some slightly longer screws. Looks really easy to do, something I'm going to try when I have a bit of time to get some plastic. Try looking at the forums David mentioned, Plummet has made a real good thread about how he made the first version.

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This is the thread on Ducati.ms http://www.ducati.ms/forums/44-multistrada/133467-hiss-flaps.html

If I read it correctly, he got up to something like version 5 or 6... It ended up being much more 'sophisticatd' than the cut visor. There are several (?) CAD drawings for various attempts, so that you can make them yourself.

I can't, because I neither have the correct tools, nor somewhere to work ...hence my hope that someone makes them. Oh, and plus the fact that I'd quite probably make a hash of it... ;-)

David

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John W wrote:
Hi guys,.
I am off on a trip in a couple of weeks for 10 days to France, and know my tyres will not last the trip.
Can anyone recommend a tyre place / bike dealers down near orange / Avignon / nimes area.
Alternatively, is there a national tyre company to look for ?
Price is not really the issue, i am more concerned with somewhere that will do a good job and also can get the rear wheel off :-)

-)

John, I typically make 3 Euro trips a year and have been caught needing tyres which typically leads to wasting a large part of the day getting tyres and not riding plus paying through the knose for tyre types you do not want.

Last year in Italy I needed a rear for my MTS1200 and the Ducati dealer had no stock. The next tyre dealer did not have the tool to take off the rear hub...........all my mates were hitting the Mendel Pass, the Dolomites in sunshine.

My mate on a K1600 had to pay a £200 premium for the rear tyre.

So one option is to get tyres before you leave the UK and remount your old tyre later for £20 or so if your bothered. Work out what your daily holiday cost is - £150 plus- and factor in a lost holiday day and the £20 refitting cost is a bargain............???

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That's a good point from RiC actually...a decent tyre fitter will change tyres and balance the wheels for you with whatever you want. So you could put fresh rubber on before you go, and then if you want to, put the older rubber back on to 'use it up'. All it will cost you is the time to change the tyres here, plus the cost of fitting and balancing. And you save a precious day of your holiday.

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Hi guys, thanks for the comments.
I have located the nearest ducati dealers, but as said above they often don't carry tyres (got caught like that before) and just send you somewhere else. Last time they sent me to a BMW dealers for a tyre on my 998.

I could put a fresh rear tyre on, but we will be doing ~3500 miles over the 10 days, and I don't get that many miles out of a rear tyre... :-/
So. Either I have a day or two off riding to conserve tyre, or I pay the premium, lose half a day, and get to play a bit more :-)
I just wondered if any of you had recommendations for places to try. One of my mates says there is a national tyre organisation in Germany that he uses, but they don't operate in France.

I guess I might have to not press on so hard to save the tyres a bit, but that is not so much fun :-)

By the way, thanks for the link to the cp wings thread. Great read. I have ordered a fabri screen, hope it arrives in time for our trip...

Cheers all,
John.

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You're welcome John....you don't get 3500 miles out of a tyre? Blimey, what tyres are you running? I put Michelin PR3s on last spring, and have covered over 6000 miles on them....loads of grip, wet or dry, cold or warm/hot. Ok, not a super sport tyre, and perhaps not what you'd use on track, or for super fast road, but plenty for fast riding and general road use. Worth a look.

Regarding the F.Fabbri screen, I'd be interested to hear what you think....

Enjoy the trip. Where are you going? Sounds like a fabulous excursion ....jealous? Just a little... ;-)

David

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Less than 3500 miles? Try the PR3 on as David suggest, I'm sure they will last you more than 3500 miles, even if you ride hard. By the looks of it, I will get over 5k out of mine, and I ride reasonably hard. (always worse in the alps though, haven't tried PR3 there)

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pdm-dk wrote:
WOW That must have taken a while to read. :)

Yeah it is the most expensive bike I've had, but also the most fun/rewarding I have had. I use my bike mostly as entertainment and vacation, and have had it for little over 2 years. I always try to find new bikes I want more than my current bike, but I have been unable to find any the last 2 seasons. So from switching every year, to having this one for 3 years (Won't switch this season either), it will actually end up saving me money. :)


pdm-dk wrote:
WOW That must have taken a while to read. :)

Yeah it is the most expensive bike I've had, but also the most fun/rewarding I have had. I use my bike mostly as entertainment and vacation, and have had it for little over 2 years. I always try to find new bikes I want more than my current bike, but I have been unable to find any the last 2 seasons. So from switching every year, to having this one for 3 years (Won't switch this season either), it will actually end up saving me money. :)

Yes it did! But I enjoyed every second of it!!
Just keep posting.... hope soon I'll be able to post my own experience with the Multi S (Touring) - not sure I will 'cause I can't really imagine what I could possibly bring new about it, in what is possibly and probably the biggest topic on a motorbike forum... oh, and the most comprehensive...

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Tyres are the bane of my life.
I'm running the scorpion trails, because I can't ever get 3k out of any sports touring tyre.
I ride two up, and occasionally at what we call 'continental' pace, which is somewhere above advanced/brisk :-]
To be fair it's the two up bit that does most of it, because I use more power & brakes to ride at solo pace.

In Ithe past on my st4s I've had a new tyre to canvass in under 2k more than once, so getting ~3k5 is good news for me . The only time I get more is if it's wet.

We are going first to Normandy for a long weekend (about 70 people on about 50 bikes), and then 40 of us on 30 bikes are heading for the ardeche for a week. Some cracking roads around there, this is the 3rd time I've organised a trip to this hotel and I can't wait :-)

Will certainly give feedback oth screen. A couple of my friends have the Calsci screen which is why I was going to give that a try, but the fabri looks to be wider at the bottom, which is the area that seems to contribute to most of the noise etc.

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Very nice.... Yes, the F.Fabbri and VStream are the only ones which are wider at bottom. The theory being that the windflow from the front fairing 'gap' is what causes most of the noise. Anyway, it will be good to hear your thoughts.

On the tyres, I got 3500 out of the Scorpions...a mixture of solo and two up....changed to PR3s, and they are still going strong at 10k! I would recommend that you try them. I generally ride at a 'brisk' pace, and the tyre life so far has included a rather brisk two up trip to Poland and back last summer....I'd thoroughly recommend them, as they have excellent grip, warm up quickly, and last. I didn't believe the tyre fitter when he said he wouldn't see me soon. I've never managed to get more than 4k out of a tyre before, so these are giving untold levels of durability, without the usual awful feel normally associated with 'harder' tyres.

I don't know what Michelin have done, but they are excellent.

Anyway, enjoy the trip John.

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You might have just convinced me to slap a pair of pr3s on for the trip and see what happens :-)

A lot of my friends have tried them on various bikes, and they get mixed reviews - squaring off, wearing out of shape, having poor wet grip when half worn.
I guess I will need to find out for myself to really be sure. If I fit them I will report back on how they lasted.

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Well, of you'd told me that the tyres were squaring off, wearing out of shape, and having poor wet grip when half worn, I'd swear you were talking about the Scorpions, because that's exactly what I had with them. For me, and every review I've read from people having fitted them on the Multi, the opposite is true. They are a revelation.

But, I guess different bikes work well with different tyres. For me, I can't recommend the PR3s highly enough on the Multi. They are night and day compared to the Scorpions. I admit though, that all my riding is on road. The odd gravel road doesn't really count, especially as they were very short.

There's plenty of writing about them on various forums (Multi ones I mean), but go with what you feel is right for you.

I'd fit them again in a heartbeat though.

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I've got about 2k miles on PR3s now - can't fault them in the wet (and snow!) and there's absolutely no wear apparent yet. As previously noted, I'm not quite sure I have the confidence in the front end that I had on the Diablos, but very difficult to quantify. No squaring or tearing though. Knockhill on 26 June will give them their first track outing.

Aside: A big cry of "you total arse!" to the German GS rider on the A84 today who, if I hadn't seen the situation developing and hit the brakes to give him room to dive in, would have smeared himself across the radiator of an oncoming 40-tonner. I was driving my X5 and could see the entire situation developing - even sounded my horn before he started the overtake to try to warn him, but he was in determined Lemming mode. The git didn't even realise what I'd done and gave me grief for using my horn! If you ever want a salutary reminder of just how crap the general standard of car and bike driving/riding is, come live in a place like this where the main road is also a fabulous riding road, a scenic destination in its own right AND a major transit route for the big trucks heading to and from the North and the Islands. I think I see a KTM Freeride in my near future...

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technomad wrote:
If you ever want a salutary reminder of just how crap the general standard of car and bike driving/riding is, come live in a place like this where the main road is also a fabulous riding road, a scenic destination in its own right AND a major transit route for the big trucks heading to and from the North and the Islands. I think I see a KTM Freeride in my near future...

Ah you're talking about Australia, the place where you are on a super highway if there is more than 2 lanes !

On tyres, the OME tyre lasted me 6,000 k's and PR 3's 12,000 , and changed due to puncture. THe OMe are not in the same category as the PR3's. I was going to try the Roadsmarts but they did not have in stock , so unable to compare to other brands.

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Any update on the F.Fabbri screen? John W did your arrive? PDM-dk, did you decide to try it in the end?

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Just did 600km in the last few days, and I must say the Touring Vario was quite comfortable. Still some noise but not bothersome and very little if any turbulance. At one point driving into 40km/hr headwinds.

My riding partner was on a K1300GT, and after trying the Mutley he was very impressed with the screen. Must add we swapped bikes for approx. 100k, I commended him on the comfort and handling of the big Beemer. His reply was thanks, it is great for long hauls but after riding the MTS he finds his bike boring...

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Good to hear Taylod, sounds like the vario was a good investment!

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Another vote for the PR3s here. I got about 10k out of the Scorpions and am at 7,500km on the Michies having done 4 fairly energetic dry trackdays and one wet one and if I had to guess, I would say they are less than half worn. Fabulous tyres...

However, there are limits, particularly to front end grip, on the track. Lost the front on a flat or slightly off camber 120 degree left and scratched up the left hand side of the bike a little (dry day - superlative in the wet). Reports are one BG may have been trying a little too hard. Just beware fellas, Supercorsas they are not.

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I can't for the life of me figure out how you guys are getting so many miles out of your PR3's??

You talk about 12,000 kilometers and 7.5k ( miles? ) in the above posts.
You must be riding those Duc's like mopeds!!

I'm on my second set of PR3's now, great tyres imo, but I got about 4k miles out of the first set and the second set has been on for just under 3k miles and looks about shot now!

I can remember getting 6k miles out of a rear PR2 so I might try one of those next time on the rear.

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Poucher wrote:
I can't for the life of me figure out how you guys are getting so many miles out of your PR3's??

You talk about 12,000 kilometers and 7.5k ( miles? ) in the above posts.
You must be riding those Duc's like mopeds!!

I'm on my second set of PR3's now, great tyres imo, but I got about 4k miles out of the first set and the second set has been on for just under 3k miles and looks about shot now!

I can remember getting 6k miles out of a rear PR2 so I might try one of those next time on the rear.

It's simples really. If you ride the bike for recreation then the rear tyre gets walloped pretty quickly. 4000 mile life would be standard, it's getting expensive!.

The MTS goads you into using it's exhilarating punch and the tyre manufacturers and distributors take the benefit.

Ride a little easier and include some cruisey bits and you get some more miles. But 8000 miles, wow that's very good.

I remember on one tour thru' Europe a GS rider claimed 12000 miles from the rear......he enjoyed smoking his pipe whilst vmaxing at 60mph, all to their own!

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It's easy Colin. We have a class Italian beauty, smooth as silk, whereas the slightly wrinkled and not very handsome orange old Austrian bint is a bit rougher around the edges and gives her rider a tougher time.

Or something.
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