BMW R1200R

I picked up my R1200R on Friday.
Unlike Kev's test bike, I've gone for the standard model in light metallic grey. (I'm sure that the German colour code is Buchhaltergrau.)
So far the only trip I've made was out of London with the rush hour traffic. For future reference, if you're on an unfamiliar bike and haven't ridden for nearly a year then this really isn't a clever idea.
My first thoughts are that it's a lot smoother than I was expecting. I remember the R1200GS as being a bit more agricultural. Perhaps it needs the Akrapovic can to give it a bit more attitude. It seems pretty easy to ride, but doesn't seem to have the wall of power (even at low revs) that a Multistrada or K1300 has.
I'd agree with Kev about the gearbox being slick. Although mine did get stuck in second and then neutral after I stalled the bike on a busy road...
The riding position seems fine, but even with the high seat it feels a touch on the small side. A GS would probably fit me better, but I refuse to buy one. :)
Kev mentioned price, but I'd say that the R1200R is inline with something like a Yamaha FZ1 Fazer ABS or Honda CB1300R; quite a bit more than a Yamaha XJR1300; and an awful lot more than a CBF1000 or Bandit.
It seems as though a lot of Japanese bikes are asking BMW money these days.
I'll post photos tomorrow.

:-)
Wie viel BMW aufpreis für das optionale humour pack in diesen tagen?

As promised, here's a photo of my bike.
It's fitted with the optional Comfort Seat High, which increases the space for those of a lanky persuasion. There's also a set of the polycarbonate cylinder head protectors on the engine.
The luggage mounting system is really neat. If you look at the seat there's a bar along the side with a couple of prongs. Those are the upper mounting points, and though they're not as neat as those on the Multistrada and VFR1200F, it's not bad. The lower point is the end of the pillion foot peg hanger (which is out of reach of my feet).
PS Rocca, I got a good deal on the humour pack. :)
Nice bike Graeme - congratulations; I hope you have many safe and happy miles on it.
Does that tiny screen deflect much wind?

Thanks Playlord.
I haven't had the bike much above 30, as the only trip was fighting my way through rush hour traffic in London, so I don't know how effective the flyscreen is.

V. tidy Graeme. Can't see a pinstripe tho'.
Far better the humour pack than the heated comment option. And let's face it, that Henning Wehn is an absolute hoot.
Seeing Kevin's road test of the latest version of the R1200R, I thought there might be some interest in my experiences with the previous model over 4 years and 28,500 miles.
There seem to be very few "R"s on the road. This is odd because, having had a GS previously, I have no doubt that the R is a better road bike - and how many GS's really get used on the dirt?
The bike has been generally excellent. The finish is good - there is no corrosion anywhere. The handling is a little bouncy and unrefined, but it is more than capable of embarassing the odd sports bike.
I didn't think that the small flyscreen offered much wind protection until I recently rode a naked bike without any screen at similar speeds, & I now realise that it makes a surprising amount of difference, but without generating any wind noise because the turbulence is all below head level.
The engine is excellent. It is flexible and very willing to rev, with more get up & go than you might expect for what is generally perceived as a rather dull machine.
The gearbox is clonky at town speeds, but much better when the engine is revving. Unlike older BMWs, clutchless gearchanges are no problem at all.
The seat is like a plank - an hour or so is quite enough.
It has been very economical to run. Riding reasonably briskly my average fuel consumption is about 53-55 mpg, but on a longer run the other day I got a very good 62 mpg. I have had Ducatis in the past & I really fancy a Multistrada but after the BM the Ducati's fuel consumption is unacceptable to me .
Tyres have been interesting. The original Dunlops were horrible and were worn out in 6,000 miles. In fact they were so horrible that I very nearly got rid of the bike, but I switched to Metzeler Z6s which transformed the handling and have worn remarkably well. I got 9,000 miles out of my last rear, and 11,000 out of the front.
Touch wood, no problems or failures of any sort, though I think there was a recall for the brakes.
So, all in all, a pretty good end of term report!

I shall look forward to having a go on your old man's accountant bike Graeme ;-)
(Does actually look quite nice)

I'm on the run.
I took the bike out yesterday evening, and was riding badly after a year or two lay-off. I came through some traffic lights in Kingston-upon-Thames, and thought I was wobbling a bit. At that point I saw a set of blue lights lit up in my rear view mirror...
So I pull up beside the road, and the police car stops beside a Volvo behind me, has a word with its driver, before disappearing off down the road at speed in pursuit of another miscreant.
At that point the gear box decides that it's going to stick in fourth gear, and is reluctant to drop down. So clutch out, clutch in, roll forward, gear shift for a few minutes to eventually convince it that it really wants to be in first.
That and my shocking riding skills aside, the R1200R seems to be good. I've not felt intimidated by it, though occasionally when moving it around I really feel the weight.
I haven't managed to get up above 40 as yet (that'll teach me to live in London), but the fly screen seems reasonably effective. I'm off down the motorway tomorrow so will report back then.
Hope you had a better day today - it'll take at least a couple of full & varied days to get the confidence back but it will return

Being in possession of a BMW and a pair of Altberg boots, I figured that I should take the cliché further. So I've signed up with TVAM, who are a reasonably local branch of the IAM.
Yesterday with the first observed ride. I headed out to Basingstoke on the M3 to meet up with my observer, and then was taken out on a run down country lanes towards Alton and Loomies cafe.
I'm wobbling a lot less than before too, so it was a useful day out. It's getting better Dogfm. :)
Playlord was asking about the flyscreen. I found wind buffeting to be pretty minimal up to about 65 mph (100 km/h). It gets increasingly hard work beyond there, though I've not done more than an indicated 80 - 85 mph on an overtake.
I've had a couple of niggles with the bike: The gearbox has a habit of getting stuck in a gear, normally when I've stalled it, or put it into neutral. The left mirror has come loose, despite a bit of spannering in an attempt to fix it. The seat doesn't want to unlock and come off. And the steering lock decided to stay on at one point.
Unfortunately the spanner for fixing the mirror is currently locked under the seat, so I'm going to drop it back at the dealers for a spot of fettling.

The R1200R went on its holidays to Cornwall this weekend, which is about a 600 mile / 1000 km round trip.
The route I took was down the M3 to Southampton, then along the South coast to Plymouth, stopping for a service that was much cheaper than London, and out to Lands End. On the way back it was the A30 to Exeter, up the M5, then out to Cheddar Gorge, cross-country to Bath, then back along the A40, M4 (briefly) and back into London.
The Bike magazine test rated it as the best road bike in the BMW range, but also considered it the most boring. In a sense I could agree with both sentiments.
It'll do everything from carry you across the country without much in the way of stiffness or discomfort, whilst returning 50 mpg (according to my trip computer). It can carry a set of big panniers, yet also menace a 600 sports bike on the track. That said, it's not an emotional purchase like a Diavel or Rob's Griso.
So what do I like?
The build quality looks excellent, and I'd rate it as one of the best put together machines in BMW's range. I have an image of them being screwed together by a bunch of old codgers at the Berlin plant who make them like they used to.
The Comfort Saddle does what it says on the tin. After two long days I don't feel any aches, and I can't see any point in bothering an aftermarket vendor.
The trip computer is great, particularly the range countdown. However it tends to sit at around the 230 to 240 miles remaining mark for quite some time (I'd guess around 50 miles), before appearing to guzzle fuel like a Tuono. It seems to settle down again between 80 and 100 miles.
I don't know why all bikes don't have one fitted. It can't the that complicated to implement. Having got used to it I don't think that I'd want one of those emotional bikes that don't even have a fuel gauge. Like a Diavel or Griso. :)
Fuel consumption seems good. I haven't worked out the mileage accurately, but I estimated that I used 25 to 30 litres (5.5 to 6.6 gallons) to get home yesterday. That works out at 50 mpg in the worst case.
The fly screen is effective. I've found that I can tuck myself down, and wind blast is quite bearable at motorway speeds.
The ESA system seems convenient, particularly as I can tweak the suspension to carry panniers at the touch of a button. But I didn't notice a huge difference between the Sports / Normal / Comfort settings. Sports feels tauter, whereas Comfort feels a bit softer, but it doesn't seem a dramatic difference. That might just be me though.
The panniers are good, but rather large. BMW used to offer City Lids, which were narrower than the standard cases, and kept the overall width of the bike down to that of the handlebars. I'm travelling along, so I'd be quite happy to trade some of the volume for convenience. Particularly as I didn't fill the panniers.
Niggles?
The box is loosening up with miles, but still gets stuck in gear occasionally. I had a bit of a swear at it when it got jammed in fourth at a traffic light in Staines yesterday, to the amusement of the passengers in a Mini convertible beside me.
There's been a bit of weeping of oil from the fork seals, and I need to keep an eye on that.
And a little piece of plastic on one of the panniers has come loose. I need to speak to the dealer to see if that can get properly re-attached.
Aside from that, I wish that there was a bit more space between the seat and bars. The K1300R and Griso both have a longer seating position, with slightly lower bars, and I think that would suit my riding style a bit better. They both have a longer wheelbase, so you don't get it for free.
I'd also like a bit more attitude to how the bike looks. If BMW built a new Rockster or the Low Rider Concept then I'd have one instead.

Yeah - the Griso is utterly impractical... and I think that is why I love it ;-) Practical bikes just don't do it for me it would seem!
That said the way you ride is often influenced by the bike you are on, so you may find that you become very much accustomed to the Beemer and find anything else a wee bit odd (getting onto the Griso or the Norge after the Tiger was an experience). And as you admitted that you were riding with all the verve and assertiveness of an OAP I think the big K would be somewhat lost on you ;-)
Funny enough, the Griso can be ridden slow... infact in many ways it should be, so everyone can get a good eye full!

Graeme
The forks shouldn't contain much in the way of oil as the Telelever does all the work. They are essentailly there to attached the wheel to the handlebars.
The ESA system on my R1200RT was similar to what you describe. That is not a hugh amount of difference between the damping settings and I found myself using comfort more often than I thought I would. The gearbox does get better with age/miles so stick with it. The thing I've found with all the Beemers I've ridden/owned is that they are real 'Growers'. That is they get increasingly under your skin the more you use them. I'm sure that this will be the case with you too.
Any pics?

Rob, I'm not saying that I should have bought a K1300R instead, but rather that my ideal bike probably has characteristics of that bike and the R1200R.
Navy Boy, the gearbox is a lot better than it was, and I'd expect it will continue to improve. A lot of the mechanical parts seemed tight to begin with and are now behaving better.
I suspect that it's a head versus heart thing. My R1200R, Rob's Griso and your Harley are all basically the same thing, namely a big, air cooled standard twins. On paper (and possibly in practice) the Beemer is lighter, at least as powerful and more fuel efficient than its rivals, and is more practical. But I don't think it's the sort of machine that people say, "You know what, I really want one."
Though the Classic does seem to have its fans.
I could see it getting under my skin, though. I feel a bit like it's the default choice, but nothing seems quite as good.
No more pictures, sorry. I should have stopped in Cheddar Gorge for a few beauty shots yesterday.

Graeme
I've been reading your comments with interest as an R1200R has been on my radar for a while (as has a Griso...). However, I'm amused that you say the build quality is excellent but then talk about it sticking in gear, oil seeping on the forks, pannier lids etc.
Having had experience with several Aprilias and their excellent quality (yes, really), I'm interested to hear Rob's comments on the quality of his Griso.

Perhaps I should reiterate that. :)
The finish is excellent, but there have been a few small niggles. Most of which seem to be down to the bike being new, and needing a little wearing in to loosen it up.
The gearbox, steering lock (getting stuck on once or twice) and seat lock all fall into this, and are improving. I get the impression that it's one of those "they all do that" things.
The loose mirror was something that the dealer didn't sort properly prior to delivery and required two minutes to fix.
The pannier issue is that there's a little arm that comes up when the carry handle is pushed down, and presses against the underside of the seat unit to hold it in place. There's an L-shaped piece on the end of the arm, and that popped up when I was packing the panniers last week, and I can't seem to get it properly affixed. I'm not sure if it should be glued on, or whether it's held in place by friction. Again, it'll be a two minute fix once I know how it's meant to be.
The forks are really the only thing that's of concern.
Rob's Griso has similar issues with mechanical tightness. The engine was stalling pretty regularly for the first fifty or hundred miles, but is better now.

Suggesting someone's driving or riding isn't flawless can be like telling a man he has a small willy, but you've been admitting to rusty riding so I'll dare to suggest you shouldn't really be in fourth gear at the lights, I think most bikes won't go down through the box while stationary, this probably isn't a problem specifically with your BMW, you'll do much better to go down the ratios as you come to a halt. I tend to be in second and snick it into first just about as I'm stopping, and that also means if the lights change you're already in the right gear to move forward again.
BMW's build quality has improved since the low point in 2007/8 but there's still a way to go by the sound of it. But as long as none of the niggles get in the way of riding, you should find the dealer is very helpful and efficient.

My riding is eminently criticisable, and as you said I shouldn't have been in fourth at that point. It was a combination of tiredness and getting confused by a bizarre roundabout-cum-junction in Staines.
I've not owned a new bike before, so not sure if these are just niggles that all bikes have. Rob's Griso sounds equally tight to being with, and the pannier issue is far less serious than the leakage that the Multistrada's suffered. There's nothing that would put me off owning one.

I'm officially in a grump.
I took the bike into London this morning to get the pannier checked (a piece of plastic has bent out of shape and come loose as a result), and the forks (no problem).
On the way back White Van Man decided that there was a van sized gap, and clipped the problematic pannier. There's a small amount of cosmetic damage on the trailing edge, but it's hardly noticeable. Naturally the driver didn't stop, and disappeared on his merry way.
I think that I should take my sister-in-law's approach to dealing with traffic violations...

I would definitely agree that there is merit is your sister in law's approach. I think however, you will need to drop any notion of the smaller panniers, that you mentioned earlier in the thread, to get that in.

I don't think that the panniers are much wider than the handlebars, so perhaps I'm just being overcautious when riding.
They are a decent size (when Kamikaze white vans aren't involved). When I parked up in London yesterday I stuffed my helmet and gloves in one side and my bulky leather jacket in the other, which was very convenient.
I really should have changed my trousers too, as I ended up on Old Compton Street in leather trousers on Gay Pride Day. As my mum said, I'd have been in with a chance of pulling. :)
I really should have changed my trousers too, as I ended up on Old Compton Street in leather trousers on Gay Pride Day. As my mum said, I'd have been in with a chance of pulling. :)
A Dedicated Follower of Fashion (if you remember The Kinks)
Is that known as 'being in the wrong place at the wrong time', 'the right place at the wrong time', or 'the wrong place at the right time?'

Graeme
Have you been following this guy's exploits? That's a lot of heavy metal.
N.B. Now he's reached the Czech Republic, the SatNav's playing up :-}
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/8593892/Briton-to-attend-26...



Ouch.
I'm in the wrong lane in a roundabout, and trying to step one lane in. A car comes up on my outside, so I turn to avoid being cut up. The car who was behind me is now alongside and closing. I've got nowhere to go.
The left side of the Beemer has a close encounter with the driver's door, and the bike goes down on its left side, dumping me in the road.
My little finger is a little sore, and the left knee on my leathers has a scuffed patch slightly larger than a postage stamp, otherwise I'm unhurt. I'm very glad I specified extra thick hide and the full-fat armour on my leathers because I didn't feel a thing as I hit the ground. It could have been a lot worse.
The bike crashes well. The bar weight and end of the clutch lever are a bit ground down. There are a few nasty scratches on the cylinder head, and the protector got ripped off. The end can has a few scratches. And the left mirror is now loose and needs tightening up. Again.
The car had a big dent in the driver's door, and the other party claims that I changed lanes suddenly and drove into them.

That really has got of lighter than I expected from what you said on the phone. Does crash well!
Only thing I can suggest on a busy roundabout is if you are in the wrong lane go with the exit you are lined up for, find somewhere to turn, and go back for another stab at it.
It's your word against the other drivers so I suspect the insurance will go 50/50.

Sorry to hear about the 'off' Graeme.
I'll bet you wish you were here.....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/festivalsandevents/8638476/One-month-t...
Probably best to keep the earplugs in tho'.
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A correction for the review.
According to a comment on ADVRider forum, the R1200R Classic requires tubed tyres. The bike isn't fitted with the tubeless compatible spoked wheels that the GS has.